This episode originally aired on Aug. 8, 2024.
In conversation with serial killers.
Columbus-based forensic psychologist Jeffrey Smalldon’s fascination with serial killers started early when as a college student he began writing to Charles Manson, and Manson wrote back to him.
The first time Smalldon sat down with a serial killer, he spent most of the interview wishing for a bathroom.
That need to go to the bathroom and the way serial killer John Wayne Gacy mocked him for it set the tone for Smalldon’s new memoir, That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers.
Guest:
- Jeffrey Smalldon, forensic psychologist, author, That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers
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