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This week, representatives from Facebook, Google and Twitter were on Capitol Hill, but not the CEOs, the people calling the shots. They sent their lawyers instead. And over two days of hearings, they tried to convince lawmakers there is no need to regulate their platforms. NPR's Aarti Shahani reports.

AARTI SHAHANI, BYLINE: Senators wanted to understand not just the metrics - how much money did Facebook make off Russia-linked ads? How many Twitter users are bots? - but the motivations of the tech titans.


ANGUS KING: I must say, though, I'm disappointed that you're here and not your CEOs.

SHAHANI: Senator Angus King, a Maine independent.


KING: If we go through this exercise again, we would appreciate seeing the top people who are actually making the decision.

SHAHANI: He wasn't the only one.


JOE MANCHIN: Are you or your CEOs concerned about the threat and damage your companies can do to the U.S. with your far-reaching power?

SHAHANI: Senator Joe Manchin, West Virginia Democrat.


MANCHIN: Are you concerned about that? Do your CEOs - do you talk about the threats to the United States of America, or your domicile? Or is it basically just a business model?

SHAHANI: Facebook celebrity executives Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg were not on Capitol Hill yesterday when Congress grilled the company's top lawyers about divisive Russian propaganda and the threat to democracy. Instead, they were on an earnings call with investors.


MARK ZUCKERBERG: Thanks everyone for joining us today.

SHAHANI: CEO Zuckerberg.


ZUCKERBERG: And we had our first ever quarter with more than $10 billion in revenue.

SHAHANI: $10 billion fueled by the company's dominance in online advertising. But just a minute into opening remarks, there is a but.


ZUCKERBERG: But none of that matters if our services are used in a way that doesn't bring people closer together.

SHAHANI: The CEO veers from metrics to politics. And by doing that, he is signaling two things to investors - one, I care and two, I'm on top of it.


ZUCKERBERG: I am dead serious about this. And the reason I'm talking about this on our earnings call is that I've directed our teams to invest so much in security on top of the other investments we're making that it will significantly impact our profitability going forward. And I wanted our investors to hear that directly from me.

SHAHANI: He says over the next year, Facebook will double the people working on safety and security from 10,000 to 20,000, and that protecting online communities is more important than maximizing profits. The company says it'll build tools to reveal which advertisers are placing which ads.

RENEE DIRESTA: What they came out with was more than I expected. This might be me having very low expectations at this point.

SHAHANI: Renee DiResta is a tech entrepreneur and advocate for data transparency. She says Facebook downplayed the Russia threat a lot. Just weeks ago, they claimed Russia-linked ads reached 10 million users. This week, that number skyrocketed to 126 million. The company is changing its tune, and she has a theory about why. Facebook, as well as Google and Twitter, are trying to avoid regulation. It's a self-preservation instinct, in her words.

DIRESTA: And that is what is really motivating these decisions by the platforms. They, of course, hope to get ahead of it because regulation is arduous.

SHAHANI: Social media experts are watching to see how far the companies go in accepting responsibility for the ads that users post. Ginny Marvin, an editor at Search Engine Land, a marketer trade publication, makes a subtle but important point. The tech platforms are promising to vigorously check political ads, - ads for candidates. But they haven't talked about issue ads, like for or against gun control.

GINNY MARVIN: These are opinions that people have. And we are just the platform. We can't step in and police that.

SHAHANI: She expects that in the next round of debates, the conflict between how the tech companies see themselves - as private platforms - and how lawmakers increasingly see them - as public squares - will come to a head. Aarti Shahani, NPR News, Washington.

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Aarti Shahani is a correspondent for NPR. Based in Silicon Valley, she covers the biggest companies on earth. She is also an author. Her first book, Here We Are: American Dreams, American Nightmares (out Oct. 1, 2019), is about the extreme ups and downs her family encountered as immigrants in the U.S. Before journalism, Shahani was a community organizer in her native New York City, helping prisoners and families facing deportation. Even if it looks like she keeps changing careers, she's always doing the same thing: telling stories that matter.